Drill Now So Exxon Can Make More $$$?
To no surprise Exxon Mobil has recorded profits this quarter... and not just record profits for a single quarter, but record profits for a single quarter for ANY US COMPANY... EVER! This just reaffirms all my statements made in this blog: Why NOT Drilling Offshore is a No-Brainer.
Bush is pushing again today for his offshore drilling plan to be approved by congress before their August break. This seemed like a stupid move to me since The Energy Department released data this week showing that U.S. exports of finished petroleum products, including gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel, soared to 1.592 million barrels per day in May. These exports set a record for the month and were up 31 percent from a year ago. This caused me to ask myself: "Why would a lame duck president be pushing so hard for a unnecessary energy bill?" It took me about 2.3 seconds to come to the conclusion that since his political career is over, he's trying to get in good with his oil buddies making record profits, so he can live out the rest of his years with no economic worries. This is simply a ploy for the big oil companies with record profits to acquire more land for drilling! Most ex-presidents make money by being paid to speak at events, conferences etc. but I'm betting that Bush doesn't expect to get that many invitations? This way, he tries to pass big oil legislation at the expense of our oceans and environment, and he lives the rest of his years without ever having to worry about speaking at events, and being heckled for being the worst president the US has ever seen. We need to stop this madness NOW! Call your representative and tell them this offshore drilling bill is just crazy! https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml https://secure.defenders.org/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=UserAc...
Sources: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2bWhAvZxrryiRX8QnFU57pz3ctAD928R9S00 http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/7690196
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This is just truly painful to read. You geniuses do realize of course (of course not, I guess) that the US, BY LAW, is not allowed to export oil that it gets from its territories.
Whether that's in Bakersfield, off the California coast, in Texas, the Gulf Coast, or if Dubbya gets his way and gets to drill in ANWR... ALL ALL ALL ALL ALLLLLLLL of this oil stays in the US for US CONSUMPTION.
The US DOES NOT EXPORT OIL. It's the law. Look it up!
[quote=Davielli]This is just truly painful to read. You geniuses do realize of course (of course not, I guess) that the US, BY LAW, is not allowed to export oil that it gets from its territories. Whether that's in Bakersfield, off the California coast, in Texas, the Gulf Coast, or if Dubbya gets his way and gets to drill in ANWR... ALL ALL ALL ALL ALLLLLLLL of this oil stays in the US for US CONSUMPTION. The US DOES NOT EXPORT OIL. It's the law. Look it up![/quote]
Of course the US exports oil, look at my sources!
Quote of guardian.co.uk:
Critics of the offshore drilling plan noted that the Energy Department released data this week showing that U.S. exports of finished petroleum products, including gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel, soared to 1.592 million barrels per day in May.
The exports set a record for the month and were up 31 percent from a year ago.
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This is absolutely INCORRECT. We export BOTH crude and refined products every day, in order to supply global energy markets.
here's one reference:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/mcrexus1m.htm
No surprise that Exxon is doing well and wants to continue to do so. According to a report by CNN, oil companies in the US currently have 70 million acres of productive oil leases that could easily be tapped if flooding the market is what they really wanted to do. Instead they're holding back and getting their stooges in Washington to talk up offshore and Arctic drilling so they can grab so more prime real estate (see "This Is Not A Drill":http://www.brightfuture.us/new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=71
I'll agree with the above poster in the fact that david d knows near to nothing about the economy or anything politically related. When businesses are free to make profits (meaning government intervention out of the way) this starts a cascade of events that are beneficial to all parties.
Also you're statement about former presidents making their money by speeches and other events is completely ridiculous. The "ex-president" makes a % of the current cabinet make-up after his term has ended. While in office, the president currently makes $400,000/year and after term it's close to $200,000/year; I seriously doubt that he will have economic problems. Plus he has investors that make him tons of money on the stock market (which is also beneficial to everyone). Please learn about how your country works before you say something ignorant.
Check the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_president#Salary
If you're concerned with companies making massive amounts of profits, then you and yours need to leave this country immediately. Economic and personal freedoms, along with property rights, are what this country was founded upon. This social democracy where we have the war on "corporate greed" is pathetic. The US should be a republic (not associated with 'Republicans', just a republic. This means that there are objective rules to follow, not rules made by people who have money (lobbyists) and can influence other people who make rules (congressman)).
You (assuming that you work) should be concerned with how much the GOVERNMENT makes per gallon of gas, which is faaaarrr more than the oil companies make. The average the government takes on a gallon is 40 cents, probably about 10 times what oil companies make.
This along with income tax are what the government STEALS from you and me and everyone else that's trying to make a living.
If you want someone to blame or point fingers at, its the government. They are the root of most of the problems in the US to begin with....
Contact me if you want any more information about any of these topics. Or for your own sake, read something enlightening before you starting spewing forth crap you know (apparently) very little about.
dbrother wrote :
If you're concerned with companies making massive amounts of profits, then you and yours need to leave this country immediately. Economic and personal freedoms, along with property rights, are what this country was founded upon. This social democracy where we have the war on "corporate greed" is pathetic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States
What else is there to say?
Your wrong?
Mabey.
[quote=dbrother]If you want someone to blame or point fingers at, its the government. They are the root of most of the problems in the US to begin with.... [/quote]
I was pointing fingers at our government, which is why I urged everyone to call their representative and tell them how INSANE this offshore issue is. It makes absolutely no sense.
What will offshore drilling do exactly? Reduce our independence on foreign oil??? WRONG - oil goes into something called a GLOBAL MARKET, where places like CHINA and INDIA will buy it up at a higher price. There is plenty of oil, the issue of SPECULATION as well as EXPORTING US OIL should be addressed, not drilling for oil that will be available a decade from now. We should not give BIG OIL a BLANK CHECK to drill the oceans and ruin shorelines for generations to come.
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We've been drilling for 80 years onshore and 60 off. Tell me an ocean or shoreline that has been ruined by drilling.
[quote=srwood]We've been drilling for 80 years onshore and 60 off. Tell me an ocean or shoreline that has been ruined by drilling.[/quote]
In 2006 they passed another bill allowing some offshore drilling: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206543,00.html
Ask people that live in texas and Alabama if THEIR shorelines have been ruined.
The offshore drilling issue we're talking about now would allow any oil company to stake claim to ANY shoreline they wanted by removing a 27-year ban on drilling for oil off the coasts of the United States.
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You idiot. Of course they have record profits they sold their product at a record price. The important metric is profit margin. This is about 8%. Which is returned to the investors who put there capital at risk for the production. How much money would you lend for no return?
[quote=srwood]You idiot. Of course they have record profits they sold their product at a record price. The important metric is profit margin. This is about 8%. Which is returned to the investors who put there capital at risk for the production. How much money would you lend for no return?[/quote]
Wow you're right!!! You convinced me with your well thought out argument!!!
See this post please:
http://greenopolis.com/myopolis/blogs/david-d/why-not-drilling-offshore-...
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And you convinced me with your well though out reply. Why don't you just admit that you are a socialist with wealth envy intent upon destroying capitalism? Move to Finland you tool.
[quote=srwood]And you convinced me with your well though out reply. Why don't you just admit that you are a socialist with wealth envy intent upon destroying capitalism? Move to Finland you tool.[/quote]
Why would you think that you deserve to be here more than I? Isn't questioning your government instead of following blindly the definition of patriotism? Isn't the definition of capitalism creating competitive & superior (non oil based) products & MARKETPLACES?
Here's a comment I wrote in the digg thread, the short and skinny of it if you will:
'This article was actually talking about how it's so blatantly obvious that offshore drilling is not needed. Why would we need to drill more? Because BIG OIL is exporting more:
"The Energy Department released data this week showing that U.S. exports of finished petroleum products, including gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel, soared to 1.592 million barrels per day in May. These exports set a record for the month and were up 31 percent from a year ago. "
Put limitations on exporting is a much smarter solution then allowing states to ruin their shorelines, and the ocean which is already hurting pretty bad.'
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Holy dollar sign batman...you mean we can't make profits? Solar panels too! Windmills on the ocean must be done at cost! Rockem zowie!
al
No, very simply put. Profits by large oil companies are not driven by them being able to find and produce more oil, it is based on the inflation of price on the cost of a barrel of oil. David, you are a complete idiot on your theory of allowing off-shore drilling saying it will hurt us. It can only help our economy by allowing us to purchase MUCH less foreign oil and this will in turn lower gas and diesel prices. Right now, we can not import any diesel gas from foreign countries due to their HIGH demand of diesel. We need more production in the off-shore sites in the gulf coast and California coast. Oh yeah, why aren't they drilling in spots such as Alaska to produce oil? Well, let's see, do you even know how much it costs to build a site and send that crude oil down to the Lower 48?? HUH? You are such an idiot. We have an abundant amount of proven areas of oil reserves in the Gulf Coast. Oh and since you are an ignorant greenist, you should also know that oil spills will actually reduce if we are allowed to drill off-shore in areas close to the US BECAUSE, and this is a proven fact, oil spills occur five times more often when we IMPORT crude oil. There, does it not only satisfy the inflation of gas and diesel prices, but also PROVE to you that less imports are BETTER for the environment. When will you thick-headed hippies ever understand the true economics. So what if large oil companies are making a lot of money, their profit margins are still the same. They have to find reserves at a 103% rate each year to keep gas at the price it is now as well. Money is being spent very heavily in researching exploration to keep at this rate. Also, refining is at an all time high rate in the 90% range. You should be thanking the large oil companies for operating as hard and efficiently as they are right now or we would be in some very steep prices for gas and diesel. Now sit down, and let a smart economist submit the next column.
Maybe, just maybe, the President of the United States wants America to be less dependant on foreign oil. I don't know why people always think there's some grand conspiracy behind everything. And instead of blaming Bush for Exxon's record profits, as if he has anything to do with how much money they make, why don't you get mad at your fellow Americans for not giving Exxon a reason to lower gas prices.
And you think the President won't get many invitations to speak? Are you crazy? How hated was Bill Clinton by half this country when he left office? And yet he's made millions. Bush is already wealthy, and when he leaves office he'll be even wealthier. All you offer in your post is speculation, with no real fact. But then again, all the Bush-haters typically have is conjecture.
[quote=kevin_af]Maybe, just maybe, the President of the United States wants America to be less dependant on foreign oil. I don't know why people always think there's some grand conspiracy behind everything. And instead of blaming Bush for Exxon's record profits, as if he has anything to do with how much money they make, why don't you get mad at your fellow Americans for not giving Exxon a reason to lower gas prices. And you think the President won't get many invitations to speak? Are you crazy? How hated was Bill Clinton by half this country when he left office? And yet he's made millions. Bush is already wealthy, and when he leaves office he'll be even wealthier. All you offer in your post is speculation, with no real fact. But then again, all the Bush-haters typically have is conjecture.[/quote]
The difference was that Clinton was actually a good president, balanced the budget with a flourishing economy. Is the economy good right now? Am I missing something?
Wall Street slides on GDP, jobless data: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080731/wall_street.html
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