Diesel Van Ad

There are a lot of young folks on this site, friend, and your language in this post is a little over the top. Don't know if you have kids, but I sure don't want mine exposed to this kind of language- even with asterisks in place of letters.

I also teach my kids to make constructive criticism- not angry tirades. Did this one ad on the website really upset you that much? There is a lot of greenwashing out there, but if we get enough eyes in this community on watch, we'll be able to separate the wheat fromthe chaff.

Every company hurts the environment. Every auto maker, every "green' product manufacturer. Not one is sustainable. We want to encourage every one of 'em to move in the right direction. Some have further to go than others.

Read my post to "thinkgreenwhenconvinient" (his spelling) on diesel and biodiesel- I'm looking forward to diesel replacing a lot of gas cars- many good reasons for that. If you see a cigarette manufacturer or weapons of mass destruction manufacturer offering "green" cigarettes or "green" chemical weapons, then I'll raise a stink with you.

But please next time, take a breath, get your data straight and vetted and consider the whole community reading here before you launch into a tirade. We want to have a peaceable, constructive effort here.

It seems like everyone in this country has just come to accept certain things as either good or bad. Nothing can ever be marginal or in development. Nothing can ever have potential, but rather if it isn't perfect it's a bad thing.

It is incredibly ignorant to assume that just because something is diesel it is bad just like it would be ignorant to assume that just because a Prius is a hybrid it is good. Were you aware that a Jetta TDI gets better mileage and is twice the car of the Prius? Were you aware that the first diesel engine designed more than 100 years ago was supposed to run on vegetable oil? Have you ever thought about what we're going to do with all of those batteries out of the hybrids when they die in 10 years thus totalling the car? No, you didn't. Why? Because you let the media do your thinking for you.

Even if you don’t like it, you have to accept the fact that we live in a capitalist society. And of all the vehicles to post advertisements for, a diesel van is far from the worst.

Diesel vehicles offer versatility that gas engines cannot. Ever read up on bio-diesel? This isn’t some far fetched concept – it is here now, and works with existing technologies. You can go on to discuss that holy-grail that so many see hybrid cars as being, but the fact remains that hybrids cannot create the power needed to move cargo, and they still require gasoline (i.e., petroleum). The Dodge Sprinter is a van based on the Mercedes-Benz cargo van sold in Europe. And believe me when I say it is superior to most any other cargo van sold in this country.

If you don’t like the fact that this website has advertisements, then I suggest you pony up the money for them to pay their staff and overhead costs so they can do away with these advertisements.

it was a deisel van ad?!?!?!?! thats awful!!!!

What do you mean? what did they advertise??? but you know, if they get companies o here to advertise their products people may be more influenced to join the site. just a thought. and if people see something they like on the site they may think that they support the site, (which usually is the case) and join. but i think we should advertise more GREEN things.