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T. Boone Pickens Plan
Submitted by GreenHomeLady on Wed, 08/20/2008 - 9:23am.
T. Boone Pickens has mounted a well organized grass roots movement for change in the nation's energy infrastructure to wind power and natural gas. I'm open to the suggestion and I'm willing to get behind it, but first I want to know the downside. Two negatives that are immediately raised are 1) wind power causes danger to birds and wildlife due to the turbine propellers and the noise 2) Rights of neighborhing landowner's to quiet peaceful lifestyle their families have known for generations What are your thoughts?
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T. Boone Pickens...
I've heard a "round the water cooler" comment about the push for this particular wind farm plan... Rumor has it that the land being eyed for this project just happens to be sitting atop of a projected pipeline through the area (Pickens' pipeline to be exact). As for the location of any turbine field, I believe that studies are done to map the migration of certain birds, so that impact is minimal. Much the same way airports are approved (or not), in certain areas. As for the impact on lifestyles....that's been a fight from one generation to the next. No one ever wants to live next to the very thing that benefits them. Whether it be the Blacksmith's shop a hundred years (or so) ago, or the new fire station down the block!
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We need to proceed carefully
Your comments are spot on. They will have to go in someone or something's backyard. They also are being put in by big companies who in the long run might not be much better than the big oil companies that we have now. So the question to us is how do we make sure that this is a better, less damaging system/approach than the last one? These are fundamentally better for all concerned than fossil-fuels but we really need to be watching to make sure that abuses do not take place.
Bob Ferris
Executive Director
Yestermorrow Design/Build School
Pickens Pipeline
annak91
I live in Oklahoma. Oil and gas is my bread and butter. I am torn between my livelihood and doing what is best for the country as a whole. I don't trust the Pickens Plan as I believe anything he is involved in is ultimately to make him lots of money. He lost a lot of money speculating in oil futures this year, along with others, which has to be the major reason he is pushing the CNG deal. I am looking for more information on the Pickens Pipeline. Natural Gas is cleaner than oil, but the technology for vehicles has a lot a drawbacks, from what I have read. The fueling stations are few and far between and the mileage is not good. When we support CNG or Pickens Plan, are we just helping to hedge yet another future for T. Boone and other big companies???
Defining the goal
I admit, my first urgency is to cut the cord to foreign oil. I'm looking for the fastest way to do that, but not at the expense of further harming the environment. If I could make it happen, I'd stay up all night farming bags of algae into bio-fuel (not corn, not soybeans) or capturing methane in a jar from the back end of cattle or pipes flaming at landfills.
Your point that big companies will be at the forefront is no doubt true. What about a solution for times of transition? If hydrogen fuel cells, for example, are the final solution, do we have to wait until they are perfected or can we take an interim path?
Good Question
I think that fuel cells might be part of the answer but not any more important than other storage and transport systems. I worry about interim solutions being distractions. For example, plug-in hybrids slowing us in our development of fully electric cars or trying to get the requisit economic return on retooling for CFLs stopping us from going full speed on LEDs. I think our need is more immediate than can be provided for via normal market mechanisms or cycles. We (society) should be willing to pay to augment these mechanisms and speed up the cycles. Obviously a complicated issue, but something we need to be sinking billions into instead of millions.
Bob Ferris
Executive Director
Yestermorrow Design/Build School